OK, here's part 2...
Her:
"He's sooo cute that I just cannot get over with.
We had soooo much in common, and with him, I felt warm and secure.
It took me a LONG time move on.
Hot BJ is not as good as hot water + ice BJ:p"
Me:
Well, at least we are on the same page with that...
Her:
No matter how drunk I am, I still remember all the things I did. The best sex I had was when I was stoned.
Me:
lol...when you are stoned it's hard to remember stuff too...
Her:
Even me and him cannot agree on ALL the politically issues. But still, I like him a lot! And he is NOT a retard. He's very successful, smart, fun, sweet, loving and caring, traditional family oriented, has strict morality. I respect that.
Me:
Me too. At least we agree that morals are important - especially for a man.
Her:
You have several GFs. Do they each have several BFs?
Me:
Some do, some don't. All are free to choose thier sexual partners without judgement from me. I love all the women in my life - even you....
Note - I'm offering her acceptance now
Her:
I do know where babies come from. But there are differences between the planned/wanted babies and unplanned/unwanted/oops/surprise babies. No one wish for abortions and STDs.
She is QUALIFYING herself
Me:
The voice of experience talking. I don't know about you, but I always use condoms. Never had an STD or an unwanted pregnancy. Sex without condoms is disgusting - like fucking a public toilet.
I'm setting boundries - She has had an unwanted pregnancy, and probably an STD or two also...
Her
That's sad. When you really love someone, you can't see anyone else around you. All you can see is that one person.
This another attempt at re-framing on her part
Me:
What's sad is jealousy and insecurity. The need to own someone is selfish and childish. When you love people the way I do, you don't try to restrain the fee expression of their sexuality. Some women need multiple guys. I'm a guy who is happiest with multiple women. The funny thing is, they respect my honesty, and that I don't lie about my lifestyles or desires.
This is clear statement of my morals and values
Her:
LOL~ I AM nice to my BF's family. His brother came last week, and he liked me:) Just I'm worried that his mom might be one of those red neck McCain fans.
Btw, my BF is one who keeps asking "r u mine" or saying "u r mine", not me. But...I like it.
Note the contradiction - she chooses a BF with opposing political views. She is a minority, and his political views tend to oppress her people. She likes this tension, and is trying to control it. Note also the depth of supplication of her "needy nice guy" boyfriend...things will end badly for him....
Me:
Sure you like it - it gives that big fat ego of yours a boost. He is supplicating to you - kissing your ass. But the guy who really turns you on is the gay motorcycle racer. He wont kiss your ass, he has options with other men sexually, and so he presents the ultimate challenge to your womanhood.
Well, I'm just plain fucking with her here....remember - never take women seriously. This paragraph subcommunicates to her that I think she is a silly girl =)I'm also blatantly "amogging" the "hot" guy she keeps talking about
Here's my advice:
Manipulate the plain, moral, wimpy nice guy until he proposes marriage, and then have a bunch of babies with him. Remember, you are not getting any younger. He will never leave you, and will make a good father and provider.
LOL...now I'm simply calling her on her bullshit...indirectly of course...
When you loose attraction for him (after the inital infatuation wears of in about 18 months) have an affair with the hot gay racer guy who gives you great orgasms, and have another unplanned pregnancy by him. Don't tell your hubby, and you get to spread your genes across two males.
The gay racer won't make a good father, so simply tell hubby the baby is his.
It's called "Cuckholding" and human females do it all the time to nice guy husbands. It's actually quite beneficial for our species and creates genetic diversity. Between 10% and 20% of all siblings are only 1/2 siblings according to random DNA testing.
Note, this whole part was meant to elict a strong emotional response from her. It also communicates that I empathise with her biological condition. Just wait till you see how she responds.. =)
Her:
How's work and everything?
Me:
Ahhhh, work is boring. Sex is much more interesting
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Next Exchange:
Me:
... and so he presents the ultimate challenge to your womanhood.
Her:
Y r u keep saying that he's gay? U think so? Did you ask him out or did he ask you out? Did you guys hav sex? TELL ME~!!!!! How did you find out that he's gay????????????
She is obsessed with the idea of two men having sex...I have smoked out a deep, dark fantasy of hers now...more later =)
Me:
Manipulate the plain......(he) will make a good father and provider.
Her:
I'm sure he will b the best father. Manipulating is WRONG!
Me:
When you loose attraction for him .....spread your genes across two males.
Her:
I'm sure our honey moon will last longer than that.
Btw, I have orgasms w my BF almost every time; but 0 from (hot guy)
(Hot guy) is like a wild horse, unpredictable and uncontrollable.
Me:
The gay racer won't make a good father, so simply tell hubby the baby is his.
Her:
(Hot guy) will never make a good father/hubby/BF.
See? She is in agreement with the meta frame I set. Women KNOW this dichotomy exists between "lover" and "provider". She desires the hot guy's genes, but needs the nice guy's resources....
Me:
It's called "Cuckholding" ....
Her:
That is not called the "Cuckholding"
Cuckholding
When a couple (typically a husband and wife) pick up another man, then the husband watches as the other man cums inside his wife then eats the cum from out of the womans vagina. (typically the couple are white while the other man is black)
Joe and Shannon brought Bernard home for a long night of Cuckholding .
Ok Gentlemen. What is she doing here? Think about it, I'll wait....
OK,...got it?
She is telling me her sexual fantasy - to have a supplicating male at home that will take care of her children and eat the sperm of a dominant man straight out of her pussy, and not just tolerate it, but enjoy it!....
hahahha...maybe she's not so vanilla after all....
She must have spent quite some time on-line doing research to find THAT definition of "Cuckholding" bwahahahahahaa....
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Her:
I'm sure he will b the best father. Manipulating is WRONG!
Me:
Yea, then why do you wear sexy clothing? To manipulate a man's libido so you can have sex with him. Nothing wrong with that.
Her:
Btw, I have orgasms w my BF almost every time; but 0 from (hot guy):(
Me:
That's because he has a small penis. He is very ashamed of it.
Her:
(hot guy)is like a wild horse, unpredictable and uncontrollable.
Me:
I know, right?
The gay racer won't make a good father, so simply tell hubby the baby is his.
Her:
(Hot guy) will never make a good father/hubby/BF.
Me:
Correct.
Her:
Cuckholding
When a couple ....other man cums inside his wife then eats the cum from out of the womans vagina....
Me:
That's some hardcore stuff you are into there.....but the real definition is different:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold
Again, agreement, then reframing "That's some hardcore stuff you are into" -
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More of her gay male fantasies follow...
Her:
When did I tell you that (hot guy is gay)?
I never say anything. I think he's straight. U r the one who said he's gay. What make you think that he's gay? You'd NEVER answer my Q!
Huh?
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Me:
You just told me....
Mis-direction and reframing. This girl is ALWAYS talking about gay guys, and accusing, suspecting or teasing various men she is attracted to of being gay. It is both a test for the men, and a sexual obsession of hers....thus when I said "you just told me (her hot x bf is gay)" it forces her to go into her subconcious to make sense out of my partial, ambiguous commnuncation. This is where her sex drive lives - but she is conciously unaware of her male homosexual fantasies - they are too taboo and strong for her concious mind, threatening to overwhelm her carefully constructed sexual and social persona, so it stays underground - but still finds expression in her "anti" gay musinging.... =)
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Hahahaha...wait for it.....
Her:
When did I tell you that?
I never say anything. I think he's straight. U r the one who said he's gay. What make you think that he's gay? You'd NEVER answer my Q!
Me:
You are really obsessed with male homosexuality.
It must be a secret fantasy of yours to watch two guys french kiss passionately, while slowly running thier strong hands over each others firm naked buttocks. The blonde guy then starts slowly licking the head of the asian guy's little pink penis, as pre-cum leaks out uncontrollably.
He quickly inserts a finger into his rectum and slowly strokes his prostate. 1 finger, then 2, 3 and 4. Can he get his whole fist in this time?
Too late!
Suddenly, a huge flood of semen sprays from his cock...he cums so much that it leaks out of his mouth and down his smooth, muscular chest.
He then licks up the cum and feeds back to his lover.....
etc, etc, etc....
Is this what you imagine when you mastrubate with "Mr. Buzzy" your pink vibrating dildo?
Be honest...it's OK if you do.
I'll still accept you as a person and a friend no matter how sick, twisted, and depraved your sexual desires are. Actually, it makes you more interesting - vanilla sex sucks.
=)
Lol.... Again, this is a super hot young girl who is sexually repressed, but horny as hell. She likes drama and games. The key is to control the frame. Most guys are afraid to go sexual - I'm the opposite - I've figured out what her fantasy is, then developed a narrative that will arouse her - all playfully....and in an ACCEPTING way...
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Her:
y r u avoiding my questions?
Me:
Do you think about hot gay man sex while you masturbate with Mr. Buzzy? As orgasm after orgasm racks your body with wave after wave of twiching, spasmotic pleasure?
Answer the question you kinky little bitch......
=)
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Her:
It's NOT cool u never answer my questions:(
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Me:
I had sex last night with one of these girls. Guess wich one:
(photos of me with 10 different women I'm dating or sleeping with at the moment followed)
Analysis
This shows how females - especially this "type" (young, hot, horny, and repressed) process male sexuality, while blinded to thier own. It's really quite facinanting. I'll not divulge how intimate I've been with her in the past, because that's not important. What IS important is how her communications reveal her sexual desires, and also the path to seducing (or re-seducing) her. Women will always tell you "how" to arouse them, though often not conciously. She is sending out so many signals.....they appear to be "mixed" and they require you to properly interpret them.... I've been playing with this girl for a long time....and she always comes back for more....She does this because she finds me challenging, and can't quite pigeonhole me as a lover or provider, straight or gay or even bi. I switch from pacing her reality, to leading it, to disagreeing with it, to throwing outrageous sexual statements at her. A girl like this NEEDS to be kept off balance - she is used to being in total control of men, and it's not EXCITING. That's why the relationship with the "needy nice guy" is ultimately doomed. He's safe, but BORING...
=)
Saturday, November 22, 2008
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2 comments:
"I'll not divulge how intimate I've been with her in the past, because that's not important."
OK...I'll divulge it for you:
You haven't got jack-squat.
LOL!!
Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Period. You brag so much, it's OBVIOUS you'd tell us if you did, anything with her whatsoever.
Your long-established nature - both here and on MASF - is to brag. Even to the point of giving up your anonymity & posting photos. That's some hard-core megalomania, fella. lol
BTW...Hell yes, it's important.
Why do you keep telling us this is a beautiful young hot girl, if getting with her is NOT important! lol
Here's another phony-baloney comment:
"...Photos of me with 10 different women I'm dating or sleeping with at the moment."
Cute. Now let me translate:
Here's a picture of THE ONE girl I'm sleeping with (aged 55) and NINE others that I'm cooking dinner for, yet barely getting a kiss on the cheek, despite all my 'Sloppy Agape' efforts.
haha
Dude, let me clue you in on a little secret:
GAME KNOWS GAME
Big Daddy has it.
You DON'T.
Speaking of Agape Love...it's funny that you told her 'There is NO God', since your ACED "System" so brazenly RIPS off Christianity .
Christianity INVENTED the concept of Agape love. It also talks about phileo love and a few other greek words for love you likely haven't got to yet. haha
Now, WHO'S gonna be better at delivering Agape love - a heathen like you or a legitimate Christian?
That's why your ACED system, while meritorious at a number of levels, won't ever be particularly effective for you.
You don't have it within you to give Agape love long term.
You can preach it. But you will not be able to practice it. You don't have the goods.
The one thing you do have in common with Big Daddy is that we both have been ostracized by many of the LOOOOOOZER in MASF.
And yes, many of those guys are flat out loozers, clowns and jesters.
Player Supreme is probably the BEST of the group, and he's pretty much living on past memories. I think Lifeguard had game at one point back in the 80's too. But he's not figured out a way to sustain it in older age. haha
Big Daddy's ASSembly Line is the first practical yet REVOLUTIONARY idea to come out of the pick up community since SS. (And, no. It's NOT for sale and NEVER will be.)That insures I'm always pure in my presentation. I have no financial motive or agenda.
But, as soon as I introduced it in MASF, they perp-walked me out the door like the head of TYCO! Whooooooooo!!!
BTW, I don't believe for a minute you can get ANY hot chick with SS.
If you could...you would...no matter how much you claim otherwise.
To me Ross's stuff is bull. It MIGHT work in a very, very qualified situation on very, very qualified girls that are so lacking in any discernment that they are vulnerable to it. But, that's about all you're gonna get. And, amongst hot young girls, they are few and far between.
To be fair, the general idea of using NLP and peak experiences to turn a girl on is legit and bona fide.
REAL pick up. As done with people with REAL game, like Big Daddy, is a LONG TERM process.
And your baloney email version of phone sex is NOT what I'm talking about.
BTW, the nature of the SECOND convo you reported sure is a lot different than the first.
Hmmm...
I'm sure you'll claim you were escalating, but I think a more likely explanation is that you are EXAGGERATING. haha.
You want us to believe you've turned this chick who's ready to MARRY a conservative Catholic guy and fretting over his mother's opinion into some male-gay sex loving fantasizing freak in one conversation? Or that you magically brought it out of her??
Sorry...not buying it. It's more likely just YOUR fantasy that girls like that are storing up all these REPRESSED desires.
Ockham's Razor.
Google it.
And, if you hit the lottery and find one that fulfills your fantasies, it's maybe a once in a lifetime experience.
OTOH, The solid conservative Catholic guy will be boning her every hour on the hour for years to come, while you'll be stuck on the oustide looking in wondering whattheheck went wrong!
Big Daddy
Big Daddy's ASSembly Line
It works...
Not a very seductive conversation is it. .
I think you'd be a happier human being if you came out of the closet. What's holding you back? People don't dislike gay people, they dislike people who are pretending. You, sir, are hiding from yourself.
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