Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Morals and Ethics - Who should set them - Men or Women?

This may be the most controversial topic I've yet addressed:

Who is better suited to set ethics - men or women? The following video states my position:



I believe that women depend on men to set firm ethical boundaries.

I was playing a card game with two women just the other night. It was a new game to me. They found it simply delightful that I didn't know the rules, and took advantage of that fact at every turn. They also changed the rules occasionally.

Most men would not do this - it goes against masculine instincts of fair play. Even the most brutal male sports like Mixed Martial Arts have rules. Mike Tyson was vilified for biting the ear off his opponent in boxing. Even in all out war, including gang wars and the Mafia there are codes of honor and rules.

The women I was with were not "bad" or "evil" women. They were typical. They are both long term friends of mine. You can probably think of similar examples in your own life, and the literature is full of examples of this sort of female behavior.

Look at what happens in divorces and child custody cases.

Women do not have a set of absolute ethics the way men do. Their ethics are relative, and subject to their emotional moods. For instance, women frequently try to "steal" boyfriends and even husbands from each other. Seducers know this and use this fact to their advantage - for instance, putting a married woman in the proper emotional state will allow a skilled seducer to have sex with her (If you do not believe this, you have not studied seduction or done enough field work).
Emotionally determined ethics are what allow this to take place.
"If it feels right, it's OK"
We see this at work also in the way women seek men who have women with them in social settings. To get a guy who already has a girlfriend is emotionally compelling for most heterosexual women. It validates their attractiveness.
Most men on the other hand will not seduce the wife or girlfriend of a close friend, no matter how attractive or seductive she is out of a sense of honor and fair play. Other men's women from outside their social circle might be seen as fair game, but most men still have a very tough time going after "taken" women. One of the most common excuses I hear from guys in the field for refusing to approach a woman is that "She probably has a boyfriend"
Men assume that women have the same set of ethical boundaries regarding sex as they do, but by and large, they do not.

What sort of society would we have if MEN did not establish and set ethical boundaries? - a good one, a bad one, neutral, simply different, or would it be the same?

The seduction community is "amoral" and advocates no ethics, and I find this extremely troubling.

Ethics go to the core identity and beliefs that males have about themselves, and their interactions with women. It has huge implications for everything from individual sarges to family structures on up to entire societies.

Feminism claims that we would have a perfect, utopian society if women were in charge of ethics. There would be no war, and a loving, non-competitive social structures.

...I'm not so sure....

Note that I am not promoting any particular ethical position. I'm simply pointing out that either men will set up ethical structures, or in their absence, women will.

What will the consequences be if men don't do it?

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