Wednesday, March 19, 2008

Amogs + Shit tests = Fun for Baddog!

So today I'm at my local coffee joint/sarging lab, when a couple of AFC AMOGs start giving me shit about my sticker routine right in front an HB7 barista chick who I've been sticker gaming (see my post in tactics - she's got about 5 of them on her name tag now:D )
Seems they have been AMOGing me behind my back about what a PUA I am to her for about a week, because she turned all frosty on me about 7 days ago. So they are giving me shit about how awful it is to hit on women with stickers and how you can’t learn seduction from the internet / book, etc, etc, etc. ( my early mistake was to confide in these idiots) right in front of the HB!
She then chimes in, all pissy and indignant:
Her: “I think it’s pathetic that you have to read a book to meet women”
Me: “It’s not a book, it’s a chat board. How am I supposed to meet women?”
Her: “Just be yourself “
Me: “Oh please! No one reveals their true self at first – it takes time. Everyone puts up a façade”
Her: “Well it’s just SAD that you think that way”
Me: (turning to the AMOGs) “See – this is EXACTLY how the stickers work. She clearly has a bad attitude, so now I screen her out of consideration” (BIG Neg)
Her: (ducks into the restroom)
(AMOGS think they have me on the run….little do they suspect :-)
Her: (Comes out of restroom) I DO NOT HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE! See! I still have your stickers! (points to her name tag and qualifies self to me)
Me: “Look – I’m just trying to be social – How would you approach a man you like?”
Her “I don’t have to – they approach me”
Me: “Exactly! That’s the difference between men and women. It’s the man’s job to approach – and that’s all I’m doing. I’m just trying to get better at it – women study how to attract men constantly – they read magazines, talk to each other, dress seductively. What’s wrong with a man doing the same thing?”
Her: “well…uh….” (clearly she has broken frame at this point – her body language and eye contact are submissive)
Me : “Tell you what – I’ll be the woman, you be the man – go ahead, try to pick me up”
AMOGs start laughing….
Her: “Ok” – “those are nice shoes you are wearing”
Me: (in a bitchy, stuck-up chick voice) “Get lost – you know how many guys have tried THAT one on me today?”
Her: “oh,wha,eh…?.”
Me: (cutting her off) “See – that’s what guys have to deal with. The stickers are playful and charming – it’s just a way to meet people.”
Her: “My boyfriend isn’t a player – I didn’t even like him at first - he was just persistent. I kept saying no, and he kept asking me out. I had an amazing time with him on our first date, but I still wasn’t attracted to him, and didn’t want to go out with him again. Then I thought about it and decided to give him another chance because of how nice he was. That’s how we met”
Note that the HB required massive ass kissing from her boyfriend before going out with him, and doesn’t find him attractive. She made an intellectual choice to date him, not an emotional one. Anyone want to take bets on how long it’s gonna last before she cheats or dumps him?
The AMOGs are silent at this point. She starts to walk away, tail between her pretty little ass cheeks.
Me: “See – now you know a little bit about the real me – and I’m not so bad”
AMOG: “So you want to date him now”
Her: “No!” (of course)
Me: “See? She loves me!”
This interaction has several lessons in it.
1) Don’t let on that you are a PUA, even to your “friends” They will see you getting attraction from HB’s, get jealous, and AMOG the fuck out of you – behind your back even.
2) Frame reversal is your friend if you ever get busted as a PUA.
3) HBs secretly dig PUAs, it’s just not socially acceptable for them to admit it. They will act indignant, but secretly they want your attention and validation.

Well, what would you do under the circumstances? Here are the options as I saw them;
1) Break frame and deny that I'm a PUA. Talk about getting defensive.
2) Ignore her. Well, that's passive/agressive, and dosn't deal with the problem.
3) Confess that I love and want to meet women, and then reverse the frame so that she feels like an asshole for calling me out.
I chose option 3.
Basically, I held my frame and controlled the entire interaction, while simultaneously keeping TWO amogs at bay:
I put her on the defensive. I negged her, got her qualifying, then role playing, and then she volunteers how unattractive she thinks her boyfreind is. She ended up becoming submissive and agreeing with pretty much every point I made after starting the interaction by trying to cut my balls off.
I think that's a pretty good result. The Amogs can no longer use the whole PUA thing against me with her now, and they also saw me flip the interaction to my advantage, so maybe they'll think twice before trying that crap again.
The l lesson here is that as you get better at PU, the AMOGs will get worse. I brought it on myself to some extent several months ago because I was excited by what I was learning and wanted to share it with my buddies. Problem is, they see me hanging out with and getting attraction from every woman in sight, and they get jealous, so to protect their frame, they Amog – no mystery there, in fact, I’m not even mad at them – I have learned something from them.
The real problem with the HB7 is that she is right at the bottom of what I’m willing to stick my dick in, and probably knows it. She has an OK ass, but that’s about it in my book. She sees me sarging and hanging with all these much hotter girls every morning, and them having a great time with me, and she gets jealous too ( I left out the part of the interaction where she mentioned some of the girls I was hanging with, and one HB9 in particular). What she really wanted was some attention and not to feel like I was playing her.
Here is what I see as an even bigger problem in the community, and with men in general. I may do a separate post on the topic, because it’s been bugging the shit out of me:Why are we all so ashamed of wanting to fuck hot, high quality women that we are afraid to admit we are working to get better at it? I consider the study of attraction and seduction to be a form of self improvement, and it has many more aspects to it than simply getting laid – I can pay a hooker for that.
I will not be made to feel ashamed of my desires. I am a MAN and it is my RIGHT to sarge women. If a woman doesn’t like it, I’ll next her, but she better either help me, or stay the fuck out of my way from then on. Same goes for guys: Help me, or stay the fuck out of my way. I won’t use arguments, violence or insults to disarm you though:
I’ll use my intelligence, charm and wit. These are much deadlier in social situations than any insult or threat.
Think intellectual Aikido.

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