Why isn't Seduction the most popular subject on the Net?

When I first discovered the community I was puzzled by how few responses and users there were on these sort of forums. I thought they’d be overrun with horny guys.
I started out on Mystery’s forum by posting a few questions, and got no response. Then I discovered this forum. So many rules to posting!!! But at least there seemed to be some people that wanted to help, so after lurking for a bit, I joined, and posted some of my insights into PU.
The silence was deafening! I’d get like two or three replies, and then the thread would die. Most posts are like this, even popular ones in the top 20
Now, for comparison, here is a thread from a CAR chat board that is well over 300 pages long. It deals with SUPERCHARGERS:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?&id=1214810&postid=27468077#27468077
…and it is only one of thousands of threads on one of hundreds of car related chat boards. Guys will spend countless hours swapping tips about some arcane bit of automobile performance equipment, but they scoff at the notion that they can learn anything about women on-line.
I’m gonna make some bold statements here, but they come from experience:
1) Superchargers and the systems that support them are far more complex than dating women (and expensive)
2) Fucking a hot woman is about equal in fun to driving a car with a well set-up supercharger, more fun at first, less fun later, so it all evens out. I know, I’ve been doing both recently.
3) A fucked up supercharger is not nearly as disruptive to your wellbeing as a fucked up woman. Again, I know this from recent experience.
So why in the hell don’t guys spend more time trying to figure out what makes women tick? More bang for the buck than figuring out cars.
Why will we cooperate when it comes to cars, but remain aloof and skeptical when it comes to women? I could say the same about politics, sports, even stamp collecting.
The only thing that explains it is societal conditioning. We are made to feel ashamed of our natural desires, while women are taught to bait us into chasing them and supplicating to them. Too bad this is a recipe for bad relationships with no attraction and lots of cheating and resentment. Look at the divorce rate. Something is very wrong with the AFC path.
Unite Brothers! There is nothing wrong with sarging. As I put it to a woman earlier this week when she invited me over to her house, and acted surprised when I started escalating towards sex once there:
“You invited me to your home - It would be rude of me NOT to make a pass at you” :-)
That’s the attitude you must have. Help each other out – women work in teams in social environments, and so should we. Ultimately we are doing them a HUGE favor by sarging them, and by being selective. A true PUA will not settle for a low quality woman, or for one who is not compatible with him. He also will not date rape women, or take unfair advantage of drunk women. He is ALPHA, and always in control of himself and his environment. He does not need to stoop to such base behavior. He truly loves and respects quality women and want’s to give and receive pleasure from as many of them as possible. While he is not seeking a relationship, he has also not ruled it out with the right woman but he will NOT let a woman control him with sex, or by any other means, because he knows this will end the attraction between them.
Now, what’s so wrong about that?
Please help me understand
Thanks - and if you read those 300 pages, you will know a lot about superchargers. Then you can start on the 1000’s of pages on turbochargers – they are even worse. I use the supercharger analogy because fast cars and hot women are two things guys obsess about. In the car world we have the equivalent of AFCs – guys who love fast cars but are clueless about how to drive or maintain them. The get some money, buy one, and then promptly crash it or trash it.
This happens with women too, except the consequences tend to be more dire: A car wont fuck your best friend. It won’t divorce you and take ½ of what you own. It wont demand alimony or child support while denying you the right to see your children. It won’t poison you to get your life insurance. It wont get drunk and set the house on fire, etc, etc, etc,
Making a bad choice with a car is inconvenient. With a woman it can be downright devastating.
So men band together and swap tips on cars – it is mutually beneficial – but fuck all if they are going to do it when it comes to women. Also, in the car world, the same topics come up over and over too. Guys still jump in to help, sometimes with links to other threads, sometimes they school the dude right there.
No, I think it goes to what being masculine is all about. Cars are socially acceptable for men to study, and so are thousands of other things –
Ego might play a part, but I don’t buy it as the main reason. This is the web. No one knows who the fuck you are! You can even hide behind an avatar of two dogs fucking for Christ’s sake.
The women I have discussed PU with have all understood exactly why men would do this sort of thing, and actually support it. They also have directly confirmed every bedrock theory of PU when I explained it too them. Some have said straight up to me that I “get” women, and that they wish more guys were like me. Others who don’t know about me and PU have said that something is different about me recently – like I’m more confident or something.
But a “real man” shouldn’t need advice about how to deal with those seductive, crazy, irrational, emotion driven creatures we call women, right? No, he should just somehow magically be able to figure them out all on his own, suck up too and fall in love with “THE ONE” get married, have a family, and then get divorced (at least ½ the time)
Marriage is a bad bet at best for men, but going in blind makes it doubly bad. AFC’s don’t want to see this, so they cling to this fantasy of romantic love, and then are crushed when it doesn’t work out.
Maybe they simply refuse to see women AS THEY ARE. Society has a lot invested in the myth of romantic love, and the purity and innocence of women. It has a lot invested in the institution of marriage and family and monogamy. A PUA sees through this myth to the underlying reality, then uses this understanding to both give and receive pleasure from women. The truth may be ugly, but there is freedom and a new paradigm in it, thus it poses a threat to the established order.
With cars and about 1 million other things if you do X, Y will happen. With PU, sometimes if you do A, B will happen, but not always, or even most of the time. It's unpredictable because we are dealing with unique people in social environments. Wrap up emotion and ego with that, and men just shut down.
Men want things that are absolutely predictable. We think logically and systematically. To become good at PU, you must get inside the heads of women and understand their motivations. It is messy in there, and not at all logical or predictable in the traditional sense. This causes cognitive dissonance for AFC’s, and they simply give up, supplicate, and let women walk all over them.
I’ve always had this sense that there was some sort of key to most women’s hearts that was simple and obvious. I’ve felt this because women always seem to be afraid I’ll ‘hurt” them by cheating on them, when from my point of view it was always super hard to find and bed a woman. To women though it’s super easy for a guy to fuck her if he makes the right moves, so they figure all men know how to do this, especially the ones they fuck. It’s also obvious that certain guys are naturally good with women, even though they are not good looking or rich. I sensed from this that the key had to be related to BEHAVIOR and ACTIONS and that while it was obvious to women, most men couldn’t see it.
The key is simple and obvious the way 3rd grade math is simple and obvious – it’s easy to understand in principal, but challenging to implement in practical real world situations. It requires unlearning years of social conditioning and going against gender and social norms. I’ve lost friends over PU because they simply can’t accept my new understanding of the world and social interactions. They get uncomfortable with the way I approach and open women right in front of them without ass kissing or any of the traditional AFC tactics. They can’t believe that you should let women SEE you sarging other women, and that this builds attraction through social proof. They are shocked when I tell them I don’t “date” women, buy them drinks, or complement them.
In short, PU fucks up their whole carefully constructed world view. The see PU as manipulative, cynical, and full of gimmicks, or they just say it doesn’t work. When they see it working, they get even more pissed off – and shut down out of denial.
I guess in the end this is a good thing – More pussy for us, less for them!